I happen to share that personal view. I was talking to a guy a few weeks ago about overall vehicle quality and when I mentioned that I drove a PT Cruiser he said that Chrysler's were crap quality and why would I buy such a thing. As the conversation progressed he seemed quite pleased that his Toyota had only needed to go back to the dealer 6 times in 3 years. I pressed him on this - he wasn't talking about routine maintenance here, he was talking about fixing various problems that have come up. He was genuinely impressed with that level of quality. He ran out of things to say when I told him, quite honestly, that in the almost 5 years I've owned the PT it has been back to the dealer once - and that was only because I stopped in to pick up some touch up paint because I wanted to paint the engine vanity cover to match the exterior color. Otherwise, as far as problems go on my crappy Chrysler product - ZERO. And that's one less problem than I had on the Dodge I owned before it. Now add my Crossfire to the mix and I've got 3 Crappy Chrylsers with one problem area to report in 9 years, and he's got one Perfect Toyota with 6 problem areas in 3 years. Guess he has a different definition of quality.