those of you that met my buddy with the soltice at woodward, he just ordered one of these...so, I will let you know...he's retired from GM...so, he always drives something nice...and usually fast...real gear head...mechanical engineer, designs tranny's...he's now doing consulting for Jasper's Transmission Plant... he will tell you like it is...he said this beats buying a Z-06 for over 100K, and much nicer ride..