agreed paul they will only look lower if your car is lowered. They will be slightly lower then orginal but nothing close to that riegier side skirt that is on Koreans XF. If you look through his gallery they are WAY and I mean Way to low. We are in the process of doing a few more photoshops just so we are all on the same page. Hang tight for round 2, these things take time and mulitple rendering to get right, it just so happens we have a group of 25 guys all on board. lol if it was just me cliff and rudy you wouldnt see anything but the end product. So please lets all just be patient and enjoy the ride to a more agressive modern looking crossfire....