grt post Mike...my point for someone not yet experienced is to leave the TC fully on until he has a better feel for the car...if you are panicing on your braking, you are scubbing speed...stab brake going in as hard as you feel comfortable without losing any more speed than necessary, transition, powering out. You will get a rythem going after awhile. And finally, having ran w/ some N/As, I can tell you, on the track, they are as tough as any SRT...they will corner w/ anyone...keep practicing Aussiedude, we are just trying to help...