Forget those models. The best looking and sounding model is the Sharper Image CD player. That thing is on sale and clearance at Various Sharper images.. And for those of you that have AMEX Blue. They constantly offer 15.00 off anything over 50.00 or something. If you don't have Amex. Get on Sharper image email list and you will get offers similar to the 15.00 off. Then either bring it into a store or buy online. One bad thing... my side mirror broke off. I crazy glued it back... hope it doesn't happen in real life. Oh.. and the remote looks like it belongs on the dash of a crossfire. Pretty cool.