but they if set up they can run in the low 12.' and high 11's different motor and cpu than the srt and pt you can't do as much to them<<<(YET)>>> there is one in south fl that runs in the 12's but he just moved to Orlando. don't forget i with nos and a few mods ran 12.90"s in a 3400lb PTCruiser the caliber srt-4's are only 3190lbs and they start out with 285 hp ,,the pt 220 hp,, the srt-4 neon 230hp . good luck i think you will win in a 1/4 mile race. jim