SteveS, Sandgrounder is correct. I jump between both sites. The west coast contingency (crossfirecommunity.net)tries to have 3-4 GTG's a year. We consistantly have 10-18 Xfire's each hook-up. There is a hook-up planned for May 15-17 to Whitesands NM. I usually will post here when more details are available. The majority of the Phoenix area hook-ups are listed in this site. If you go to page two, there are two or three from last year. Our hook-ups are usually a weekend ordeal. Many people that come from out of state will stay longer to see other sites in this beautiful state. For example, if I drive to wine country, I'm going to make a week out of it.. Never been there.. My point, we have the interest and numbers. Please put me on list.. I try to incorporate both forums. Look at my signature.