Really??? I always thought that they were about overcompensating for being really small in the lap. Well, that's what all my girlfriend's who have been with Hummer owner's have mentioned ..... they also mentioned how it wasn't THAT bad because it didn't last but for a few seconds. Who knows, I have a lot of friends, but there is NO way they have hooked up with EVERY Hummer owner. There are always exceptions to the rules. On the other hand, the FJ is FUN. Every time I drive one I want to take it off roading.