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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Default Re: Stacked pulley, question

Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Hey jturkel,

Let's assume you're at a load level where the S/C is engaged.

All things being equal (like your note of proper tuning of fuel/timing/etc), the "gear" ratio between the S/C pulley and crank pulley is what's important. So, the performance (rwhp/rwtq) of a 178mm crank w/ mid-sized S/C pulley would be identical to a 181mm crank with slightly larger S/C pulley that kept that ratio the same. The minor footnote to this is that as the crank pulley gets larger, you're overdriving the accessories, which increases parasitic losses (i.e. losing efficiency of getting power to the drive wheels). That said, as you decrease the size of the S/C pulley, you lessen the belt tension, and the surface area of belt contact on the S/C pulley - presumably increasing belt-slippage (i.e. losing efficiency here as well).

My guess (and it's only a guess at this point) is that the 178mm crank pulley, plus the mid-sized S/C pulley, will make roughly the same power as the 185mm crank pullied cars - again, assuming proper tuning and other variables have been addressed. The 178mm car *should* be more efficient as well, due to lower parasitic losses; how much? Dunno. Apples-to-apples, it's also worth mentioning that buying a 178mm pulley kit, AND a mid-sized S/C pulley, would be approximately double the investment of a 185mm pulley kit and leaving the S/C pulley stock. To some, that may make a difference... YMMV.
the overdriving.....thats why i am thinking about the 178 and midsize....and with regards to running the stacked setup with the 178 and midsize, i have the code3 belt wrap kit which increases the surface area of belt contact and belt tension. i am told it is needed to really run this setup well (from Brandon).

if you make the same boost with method A and method B, but method B uses more overdriving and thus more parasitic loss, wouldn't B also produce more heat?

and yes, it is definitely more expensive.....however, I am told it feels different (and is more of a blast) to drive than with one pulley....which is why i was thinking about the low end vs top end thing. hmm....
 

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