yeah, just ask the guys in the G8 forum, hmmm, not one mention of girly car, just warnings of not taking on the Cross in the twisties, and really, in general, don't take the Crossfire for granted. (another thread here) Also Road and Track Jan 09 had a article on a 2005 SRT. a Nizzan 350Z and a Porsche Boxter S. Yep, the Cross came out on top.