Yeh, of the many options I've tried in all my past vehicles I'd know that mounts are 2 pieces for vehicle specific applications. The part that threw me off with the Kuda is there aren't even mounting holes/pattern. Why wouldn't someone looking at these just stick their holder to their console. I do understand them, don't get me wrong. Just don't see why they make these nice expensive leather Kudas and use mounting tape to secure the holder which is NOT permanent and will come loose with use.