The minute you post some real numbers, I'll shut up. I said it before, but I'll say it again, I don't have an agenda, nor do I have the need to put someone down to make myself feel good. Spending time and money on things that don't work is simply foolish. I appreciate anyones effort to improve their car. I also have been doing this long enough to know what helps and what doesn't. Turbo's , Supercharging, Injectors, Tuned port systems, more valves etc Improve the pumps ability to breath. Changing filters and adding tubing do virtually nothing as you would see if you went to the drag strip or put the car on a dyno. The only reason I spoke up at all is because some folks on here think what you're doing will help their cars performance, and as I've said before 2% maybe is all you're going to get. Think of it this way, I'm your conscience and I'm going to help you do the right thing. I don't know you so I certainly don't dislike you, I dislike how you go about what you say and what you say you do. If you say things that make sense I'll support you. If you don't I won't. Bill
PS For those of you that think I'm being to confrontatinal or harsh, go to the second gen camaro forum and post something like is being said by saskins, and you'll get a chance to see what harsh really is. Those guys are super critical of anyone making phony claims unsupported by hard data as are most of the forums for car nuts. Just trying to keep it real for the average folks out there. Bill