All the new 4000-4200 pound cars with V-8's are freakin BOATS!! They are huge and not all that fast. My buddy has an SRT8 Charger, Long tubes, CAI, tune, no cats, 3" dual magnaflow, thermostat, ported intake manifold and throttle body, and misc, I can pull him on motor to motor over a half a car a gear from a slow roll. Not that impressive to me. It is definetly not a 2 door sports car, like ours.