I believe he was trying to say that a Map Clamp on a Neon has resulted in more HP on a Neon than any Aftermarket Part that has been introduced to our car. I can tell you from first hand experience that I've owned, driven, worked on and spent a great deal of the last 4-5 years in cars that XXxx_totmacher_xxXX has built. He is a smart guy, probably the smartest tuner I've personaly come across. If there is a way, I'm confident that he can figure it out. I've never seen a car(and I've seen and been around dozens) that he has tuned, not run significantly better. We have talked about this and compared notes extensivley over the last few weeks and ideas are still being bounched around about what route to take. As far as a vendor tune is concerned, I don't think most people are too concerned about the Speed Limiter and a couple hundred RPMS at the top end. I don't ever plan on exporing the boundaries of the stock limiter and what little you gain with a bumped up rev limited isn't worth the money of a custom tune if a $300 AFC can do most of the other tuning needed for a similar result. I'm very happy with my tune purchase and it has worked relatively well for me. However, if I had the personal ability to tweak it a bit more, that would be worth it for me. If an AFC or Map Clamp was a known option at the time, I may have gone that route.

As far as the the side comments taking place in this thread, there is no need for it. It doesn't matter what car he is using as a reference or example. He are talking about Crossfires that we own and all agree on. We are all here to improve the breed. Regardless of the platform, he knows his stuff and you can't deny the potential and results that have been exihibited from the FWD Four Bangers that you have such obvious contempt for. I've met you and I know you also know what you are talking about and I'm not taking anything away from that, but can't we explore these options without BS? Not everyone wants to go 10's. These experiments are how new things and ideas come to life.