LOL, When I started this forum it was when i was "thinking" about selling my s2000. But now that I JUST sold it. My purchase for a xfire is as serious as it gets. I too have been driving stick cars my whole life and I have to say its probably the main reason why I wouldnt go for the srt. Not to mention the 3 or 4k price difference. Anyway thanks to everyone for all the reponses keep them coming! All thats left is to find a crossfire somewhere near by. I live in SoCal, and I've found a good deals a good distance away with ok mileage but I just dont feel right pulling the trigger without seeing the car first. I guess i'm going to wait for something local to show up. Let me know if anyone sees anything. Thanks!