You know, when i first read this rx8 owners b.s. post it bugged me, but now im just laughing because i know how slow rx8's are. Just head over to rx8club.com and check out their competition section. Most guys frun high 15's low 16's. One guy ran a low 14 and blew his tranny, and this is one of the most respected rx7 tuners out there, judge ito. I know because i used to have an rx7. They just try and talk ish so they can feel better about there cars being slow. at least they can port their motors easily though.............