Thread: WARNING SIDE SKIRTS "BUYER BEWARE" - AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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Default Re: AMG SLK STYLE Side Skirts for the crossfire
Originally Posted by InfernoRedXfire
Yep, that's him.

BTW, here's his phone number from his website if anyone is interested in talking with him: (805) 341-1241
First let me say that I understand the misgivings of the forum members who participated in the group buy and put up their hard earned cash. This is why I’ve never participated in group buys. I can also understand the other members who want to post their comments or opinions. I do the same; and often.

I’m not here to defend Dan Root or to diss JR Industries. I don’t have all the facts to do either. But I feel strongly that this forum should not be used to make threats of violence; veiled or real, to anyone. There’s enough crap in this world. It’s OK to be pissed and to vent – but I tend to look at the brighter side. That’s usually where solutions are found. Boiling blood only grows the problem. - - And you all have a problem you need to solve.

I spoke with Dan and I told him I’m not going to be his mouth piece on the forum. If Dan was banned for being an annoying fart with his large font’s and constant selling pitches to everyone, on every thread – that’s his problem. But Dan was not banned from this forum for ripping anyone off. He has never taken money from anyone and then not delivered the product. I believe this to be true.

As far as this group buy goes, Dan as told me he delivered his product to JR Industries. I saw them – I believe it.

Beyond that – you should call Dan direct if you feel you have dealings with him – or if you just want to know what his role was in this whole affair and just when JRI knew they were dealing with "Dan Root" and why they continued to send him money and not say anything. You deserve that and he said he would take your call and even wondered why no one has called him. You have his number (ebay or his website or above) he does not have yours nor can he PM you (obviously). Give him a call if you participated in the group buy.

I personally think both sides share some blame for hiding “Cliff” and perhaps “Cliff” himself should have PM’ed the members in the group buy (and JRI) and revealed himself early in the game - or before post #479 . I think that would have been the right thing to do.

I really don’t how to solve your problem from here – If you sent your money to “Cliff” or if you sent your money to JRI. Whoever it was - is the one that should refund your money. (IMO)

Now regarding the side-skirts… When I first saw this thread I thought “how ricer” and never followed it until a few day ago. Dan call me and asked me If I would lend a hand fitting one – I said sure – expecting something grotesque and getting a good chuckle.

In truth they look really good. They really do – so much so that I purchased an extra set that he had.

The manufacturer got the outside dimensions spot on. Problem was with the inside dimensions at the very inner part of the wheel wells. Tolerances for the thicker fiberglass VS the OEM plastic was not taken into account (that’s the manufactures fault) and this area (about 2” – 3” on each wheel well) needed to be ground down. Even then it was a little tight, but very do-able. On the OEM units there is a seperate plastic “L” bar that's fused onto the skirts that snaps into the clips on the front and rear fender and the kick panel. I will make these from a piece of off-the-shelf aluminum angle and epoxy them into place. Slip on – slip off. I didn't care for Dan's solution - nor do I think the brackets in the wheel well that you have seen in the pictures are necessary.

There may be a need to enlarge the mounting holes on the bottom on a few units - but mine are spot on.

The bottom line is that I like them and will gladly show them off and just how I modified them with you folks on the forum. But I knew up front I was going to have to modify and fit when I purchased them – I’m not at all saying that should be acceptable to the members in the group buy. I’m not saying that JRI should do this for you – but once I modified one, I could bang out the other 30 or so sets in one day – and finished them the next (once the epoxy cured). I would do that to keep my customers happy.

Then fix the inside fit issue at the factory for follow on orders.

BTW – Flexible plastic would not have been the way to go on these units. If you remove the OEM skirts – you will find a metal brace that is used along the side of the frame to brace the plastic and prevent from collapsing. With the wider aftermarket skirt – this area would have no brace and become an issue – I think fiberglass was the way to go.

Good luck guys....