First I'd like to say that friends with Dan or not Brian, you cannot avoid the fact that Dan is not holding up his end of the deal. If he was, we wouldn't be having this problem. Below are emails from Dan, the first outlining that he would handle all refunds and that he guaranteed these to fit because the manufacturer did so as well. We've given him more than enough chances to make this right and so far he hasn't done anything to do so. He held the skirts hostage saying he wouldn't send them until he was sent the remaining $5000 and he refused to send a set for us to fit before sending them. He then started emailing me about what it took to install them after the sideskirts were en route to us. Funny he couldn't be more descriptive before the fact but rather had to wait until they were already out of his hands.

Email from Dan to me on May 8th, 2009:
Hi Rudy ,
This is I believe is the balance numbers . I'll no longer be using this yahoo email address so please send to danwanpen@aol.com . You see my post also on the AMG thread. If you wish to continue doing any business with me regarding the skirts I'll need confirmation by the time you receive these skirts. If not then I'll proceed with others. Since the manufacture guarantees fitment to all customers through me I'll be the person who takes all problems and handles all refunds. You may explain this or not that is up to you. I suggest these sideskirts be installed & painted by professional bodyshop only.
Daniel C. Root

Email from Dan to me today on May 20th, 2009:
Rudy,

I'm having the front corner L piece shaped and ready to apply for skirts this will have to be epoxy or resin on by installer maybe 15 minutes. I'm going to have 60 made min asap and will ship out to all on my list with a letter of explanation & instructions >

And in that letter I will also detail "our "deal that is now voided by you and Jonny, and how you Rudy wanted to raise the price after first 25 were sold and how my price to you was $270 instead of $350 for those after the first 25 so on and so on.
Also I will not refund ANY of the group because Jonnys' statements and FP & others that have slammed me on the forum regarding this for no reason ! THIS will be proven shortly by others that have installed their skirts ! I will let others be my evidence for me as to the fact that these skirts fit as best they possibly could for after market skirts.


I will not take any more calls from you or anyone connected to you anymore until I get a full and written apology from all that have slammed me.You, Jonny, FP Tazz, BHays etc. all or nothing got it ! I'm done.

And send those who HAVE repeatedly ask for their skirts shipped to them NOW !

and this is my reply to the above email:
Dan,

I don't know who you think you are kidding but you're the one not following through with your end of the agreement. The product isn't right and WE are the ones that make that decision, not you. Just because you took the money from the group buy and purchased more sets which you clearly indicate by the fact that you are having 60 brackets made is fraud. I need Extreme Dimensions to fax or email me directly, any and all transactions that took place between them and you. If you used funds from the group buy to purchase more, we (all members of the group buy) will bring charges against you for this felonious activity. Like I said on the phone, you decided that you wanted to take control of everything and now it's time to pay up for a product that isn't right. Take it for what it is, this is a very serious matter and your neglecting to take care of it will have serious repercussions.

Rudy

Also, I'd like to note that both myself and Jon have poured through all correspondence with Dan/Cliff and we can't find anything that would lead us to believe that the following would be acceptable means of affixing a sideskirt to the car. I know it was said that double sided tape was all but completely off limits but to be fair to Dan, no one said anything about hardware store "L" brackets and sheetmetal screws. Just making a point that he knew what was expected and has failed to produce the advertised results. The worst part is that the voices of those that made this possible (group buy members) mean nothing to Dan because if they did, he would be figuring out how to get Extreme Dimensions to take them back instead of how to keep the everyone from getting refunds from him for a bunk product. The group as a whole should have been the ones that decided if they were acceptable or not and clearly from what everyone has posted, they are not.









These pictures clearly show that these are nowhere near a direct replacement. The pictures above more than adequately prove that these weren't made correctly. The use of screws and "L" brackets to hold it to the car and the fact that the bottom is pushing away from the underside of the car make this quite clear. You can see plain as day in the third image down that the bottom of the sideskirt is pushing away from the car low enough it could be ripped easily from the car.

Lastly, and I am purely speculating this but the logic is sound, I would venture that the reason he didn't tell Extreme Dimensions that they aren't good enough is that he purchased the mold, and all the additional sideskirts with money that was from the members of the group buy and in turn that would mean he would have to cough up the mold costs out of his own pocket this time for real and still pay everyone back including those he presold these to that weren't part of the group buy. It is the only conclusion I can come to. Why else would you be willing to accept these things when the manufacturer said they guaranteed fitment and they don't fit right? All he has to do is have Extreme Dimensions provide documentation showing that the costs of the sideskirts for the group buy members was $11K without the mold costs since he is saying he purchased those and the additional sets out of pocket with his own money. Maybe I need to put on my tin foil hat.

Jon is getting back into town tonight/early tomorrow morning and we will be working all weekend to come up with a solution that doesn't require people to drill into their cars like Dan would suggest.

I'd also like to take the time to thank the other vendors on this forum for offering to help us in whatever way they can to get this product right for everyone.