I personally think our car sucks in any wet conditions, granted with rain , I put it in "W" mode and put traction on, but there were plenty time when i kicked the *** end out, but cotnroled it, now for the snow and ice its not any better, to me it feels like it could spin like a top at any givin time. Well I guess I am saying this because I just bought a winter car, a 1987 Volvo w/ turbo and intercooler, LOL, I just laugh when i say that, anyways its looks like a old retarted looking hummer, but what the hell its a great commuter car for winter months.