you know at this point, I wouldn't buy anything without checking it out...my trust was, if we can't make them as direct replacements, then we won't do it...where did this logic get tossed out? And, more info should have been shared, questions were asked time and time again, with no answers. Like I said, it isn't the money, its the product. I will not install these on my car, and I would rather lose $250 than $460 any day on trying to modify OEM skirts. I felt I was an investor in creating something, not a group buyer of an existing product. This product did not exist, and more info on who was doing this with open communication is what a lot of us thought would happen based on products produced by JRI. Quality was what we were looking for. Not being ripped off by an obvious con man, like Dan. You just don't hand over that kind of money without a prototype. If I lost 25% of my investment for a prototype that wasn't to my satisfaction, then so be it, but not all the money, I am not done with this. And as far as disappointed, $ 11,000.00 for what???? And damage rate, these are damaged, and they will be shipped again, why would I want to risk that???? Modified to fit, ricer kits are modified to fit, I did one on my sons car, and would never put that on mine...better go after Dan, not going to comment any further, I'm too peeved to even go there right now...let me add this, Jonny, Rudy, if you are pursuing something against Dan, I will gladly set back and wait, but this guy isn't getting away this as it stands...and I will leave it at that...