Aussiedude, there obviously the VE platform and it obviously wouldn't have a more powerful engine then the R8 317kw, that might be there gxp or whatever they call them, and like I said it was embaressing for the guy! if you want to prove to them over on the "G8" board how much faster our cars are just get a buddy with a SS or something looks the same as there G8's and destory him on the q/mile then post it as a video to the G8 boys lol