Ok.... 500 bucks no performance numbers no dyno, no track times, not even G-tech. I am going with my personal assumption of 1-2whp gain if not a loss. If this was the ideal setup dont you think startech would have taken advantage of it? They use a similiar to stock unit that allows more flow. And KandN has a hell of a rep. Thats why people buy their product without testing it. KandN is a long cry from a man messing around in his gargage with parts from Home Depot and pep boys. As a wise man once said "Show me the money!" it would be better suited here as "Show me the results!"