The XF should not be considered a failure. It has not sold as many units as might have been expected, but it has achieved for Chrylser what they intended - it has made the whole world aware of the Chrysler brand, and it has enabled DC to release the new SLK at a premium (which is really where DC will really make their money), and has extended the life of the previous platform which will bring financial economies. Basically without the XF, Chrysler would die as a brand outside the US.

Additionally, I am really pleased with mine and will either keep it or get another in a couple of years, unless I can afford a FirePower. I bought the XF knowing it was reasonably quick, but not super-quick etc. cos I read the literature, and I've been in enough Boxsters, Z4s, M3s, S3(300hp) to know they are also not perfect.

I even bought it without a test drive, I wanted one so badly; I was either going to get the XF or nothing (I didn't need a 3rd car at the time).

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion (and we should encourage free speech on the forum) and we should not attack others for not sharing the same views as ourselves. The site is hopefully being moderated, so let them do their jobs - if you are unhappy with a post, PM the moderator and let them deal with it.

However we should be trying to help one another and be constructive whenever possible.

It is encouraging how many new members have made their first posts recently. Hopefully an aftersales market will emerge, after all I wouldn't say no to a bit more power.