I'd love someone to pull the trigger on the Manheims in 19s and 20s; however, I have a vague memory about these particular wheels not being available in the correct offset for our cars. Peter from getyourwheels.com who has done at least 6 of our cars now knows exactly what will fit without spacers and what will not fit. I think he was talking about the Manheims when he said the offsets aren't offered. I could be wrong, but it's worth checking.