i think you guys are a little sensative. it was meant to be a straight forward question. im just saying that if you developed your own product i would think you would want to test it yourself. i guess that makes me a "big dork". take it easy, chief. it just seems like if you wanted to sell them you would do some performance tests. a gtech run takes what? ten minutes total.... relax and read posts without assuming they are negative. im one of the few who never ragged on you.