I love the Supra, always have. Unfortunately never owned one. Truth of the matter is the Crossfire is an abomination in the eyes of many (especially Clarkson). What drew me to it was the cheap price of entry (under 20k with only 12,000 miles), and touching the 11's essentially with 3 mods: Pulley, Intake, & Tune.

The Supra cannot compare in regards to sheer bang for buck value- at least if you're looking to ONLY get into the high 11's- beyond that has proven for all to be quite difficult. Supras, on the other hand, are the quintessential KINGS of the import world and the sky is the limit when modding them- barring you have deep pockets.

That said I think people are disrespectful on both forums- however that's to be expected with groups of "enthusiasts".