well, bladecutter, we don't usually run the dragon, we run the hellbender...it isn't a clean well thought out road course...it is a dirty off camber mountain road like you have out your way....I have seen 130-135 approaching S curves and hair pins....we give the brakes a work out...I recommended Johnny upgrading his brakes so, he wouldn't face plant on the mountain....so he knows what he is talking about....we run a stretch that is about 10 miles long, and then run her back again....besides, being an old flat tracker, braking isn't fast....lol