can't make a car something it's not? and your talking about the handeling of a mustang? your funny...and the crossfire can be made fast, cams are available now, pulleys, ecu. thats at least 245 at the crank, then if the headers ever come out and you get exhaust. of course the cams are expensive, but all in all 2600 for 30+ hp isn't all that bad for a na motor. not great, but not bad. and 30 is extremely conservative. it would probably be more around 40. but just say 30 to be conservative. at that type of hp, crossfire is a 13.3-13.7 car. not the fastest, but plenty damn fast, about as fast as most n/a z's your gonna find out there. considering you can get an xfire for 24 grand right now, say you spend 29 after mods if you don't know how to wrench yourself, thats a great deal. It looks like i'll be able to buy my car at the end of the lease for super cheap, doubt the dealer is going to want to have a used crossfire sitting around. and yeah bullseye, i realize, in regard to that other thread, i once said i wanted the srt-4 then said i couldn't live with fwd, cuz fwd sucks bro, and you know it........when all is said and done ill have a mid 13 second rwd car that looks great and handles and brakes well for 27k, since i can install everything myself. hmmmmmmm, sounds like a mustang gt with handles........