well, 180, maybe it's you that should re-read those threads...Johnny, and Rudy was who my money went to...they were taken advantage of by Root...they made a mistake trusting him, but he didn't tell them he was Dan Root, he pretended to be someone else...he was a crook, not Johnny and Rudy...whom I would have had to go after as they recieved the monies...my problem was with Root...as I stated...I am not mad at Johnny or Rudy, and in fact treat them as friends. Had they not been able to deliver, I would have understood and taken the loss. But not from a con artist like Root...he is a crook, period...this isn't even close to being the same thing with this kid....maybe you need get your **** straight before you take a poke at me...