Boiler, you did a nice job of bringing this to a head in some fashion. This is one weird deal, I have to say. I've been following it, and was skeptical from the start of this one, and that's why did not participate. If I'm not mistaken, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but this isn't the first messed up rodeo with hyper is it? I seem to remember something else but could be I'm wrong.

IMO, and this is what I'm not getting here, is that he's a member, came up with an idea needing more proto effort, but advertised that it was a ready to go product, got folks into it, then realized it wasn't working so bailed on communicating, or refunding to the folks out there. Does that about sum it up?

Me. I'd never have offered ANYTHING for sale until at least my first one was proven after I proofed it at my expense, then it wouldn't be unreasonable to offer for sale when I understood what the production set up costs were going to be and how much I was selling the thing for.

This deal seems to me to be completely back-a$$wards, and that's how I felt about it based on the nuances of the original conversation. It didn't smell right that it was already to go. Unlike the lighted sills from Wind Restrictor. That was straight up from the start. At least it felt right, except for the paying for it while it then goes into production, but this is a custom graphic on a a standardized sill, so that's that's not the same issue as these strakes.

No hyper screwed the pooch IMO and nailed it by not communicating straight up. I dcan't figure out why a member of a group would run away like this. I've made mistakes before that cost folks money, but always made it up to them and took my lumps. It wasn't there fault that I had messed up, and always let them know what happened, but they didn't lose anything in the process. I have to see them again sometime. Just my take.