now we found the problem,i dont know wy but the map sensor go in protection,we doed a map clamp,now the map sensor read a litle bit more less than before and now the car work well
we checked everything,a/f,iat,etc,we checked also the 2 knock sensoir voltage and they togheter hit max 4,7 v on a hard run in 4 gear (up to the top rev),now someone have logged or mnitered this value,because i want to know if are normal (no error from ecu)