Good points FP. The problem is that our forum is great , but at our CGTs we only manage 6-7 vehicles and there are so many vehicles in my area from what I have been told. They just never show up. Those other rude groups at least show up to their events. Everyday our club seems to get smaller. I always see people getting rid of their Crossfires. Unfortunately, this forum may soon be the only place I can connect with Crossfire owners.