Originally Posted by amx1397

@amx1397
-- I have to other cars that are manual (as well as a few motorcycles). It is common to be able to put any of these cars (and motorcycles) in gear, without pressing the clutch pedal (or clutch lever), while it is turned off, so this behavior is not surprising. I shift mine at will with or without the clutch being depressed.
-- Unfortunately, it is impossible to shift once the car is on, regardless of RPM. your answer above ,,

are you saying you can shift your other cars without using the clutch or that you never have shifted while moving without a clutch,,

I am trying to help you find the problem,, if you can shift with the motor off,without use of the clutch but not when the eng is running running is this correct. to me it is in the shifter,slave,system not the presure plate or clutch disk. can you put the car in first or second and start the motor,,