Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Well yeah. Especialy since it would seem you have re-invented the definition of the word
"retail."
Perhaps you mean "list price" or Sticker price.
In any event, that is not news. Cars have traditionaly never sold for sticker.
Perhaps your daily experiences with the general buying public gives you this low perspective of consumer stupity but please, don't apply it to folks here.I'm sure there may be a git or two amoung us but most of the guys here are fairly saavy about buying cars
The list you posted if very helpful. But it only gives us a narrow, momentary view into the current wholesale/retail pricing. Every dealer is different, every customer is different, every deal is different.
Buying a car is not exactly like going to WalMart.
roadster with a stick
What I posted is REALITY its hard for your guys that are enthusiast to see this and I understand, I am a multiple xfire owner and believe me I am shocked to see this 40k car (when it was new only a few years back) being less than 10k in some instances. No my exp with the general public is NOT giving me a low perspective, most people with sub par intelligence STILL have access to the internet and know what they can get a car for, its reality. In time EVERYTHING will be done before people even get to a dealership...In some markets you can even "efile" your paperwork and pick up your vehicle with only a handshake person.
Franc if you met me believe me we could have a freindly debate for a while
you wouldnt believe some of the things I have seen in this busines...
