Originally Posted by Big Kahuna 13
Kim I appreciate the comments.
While I didn't actually make the video, I did think it was funny. But I'm a guy so I see your point at being offended. That Hitler video is kind of a joke, a lot of people have used it to make fun of someone else. I've seen it used many times.
Understood, it's a big harsh, but you need to understand we're not particularly impressed with Doc.
He lost his mind, accused us of hitting his car, called us everything from rednecks to lowlifes, basically stated he wants to fraudulently hide an accident from the next buyer (no carfax), etc. This is one of your leaders?
I REALLY hope he also wasn't one of the two pompous jerks who parked under the overhang blocking the hotel entrance during the rainstorm while women and children hoofed it through the pouring rain (while the CF boys sat and watched the people getting soaked as they gazed at their precious cars through the window).
The Impala community is strong, and they stick together. We are also used to challenging (and being challenged) by other car groups, so I guess it was like mixing oil and water in some cases. The people there seemed a bit, um, delicate I guess.
Just so you know, I am the original owner of my 95 SS and I also own a highly modified 2007 Trailblazer SS that I took to the track with all of 100 miles on it. I also own a 69 Camaro SS396 Convertible as well as a 94 Impala SS with a big block 502 stuffed in it. I'm not telling you this to impress you but to tell you most of the Impala guys are into performance and driving their cars hard as well as looking good. I can run 11's and I also won my class in the car show with my 95 SS. We got the impression that the CF people were generally 'waxers' which is what you call people who just buy a car for looks. It's ok to be a waxer, but it's a bit lower on the car guy food chain. Drive it like you stole it!
But I digress. I guess the point was Doc, who was only there one night, was making wild accusations and comments based on something we didn't do AND making comments on our behavior based off 3rd hand info.
Sorry for appearing to be such jerks, we're just a bunch of guys going on 15+ years with our cars so we like to have a little fun.
You guys are a different type of car person for sure. I have worked in the car business for over a decade, my family has been in the business for over 40 years and I grew up in Corvette clubs - that being said I have never met "car people" like you guys before. I spend every weekend either at the track or at a car show.
As far as Doc being our leader - we don't have "leaders". What we have is friends. As I noted in my previous post, we are a tight crew. We support each other. When our members are running for Car of the Decade, autocross championships, open wheel racing, or car shows - we all turn out in droves to support each other. We also are involved in each other's lives - visiting each other in hospitals, shuttling each other around in other cities/countries, breaking bread together, giving advice on life issues - all without a XF coming into the mix.
We have been to many car events with other car clubs and always have a great time with those groups. We have spent time with Porsche and Corvette clubs - got along with those guys with NO issues at all. We were parked with the Prowlers at Woodward and it doesn't sound like there were any problems there either. My XF's are at car shows every weekend and parked next to Impalas all the time. The owners are gracious and as interested in my car as I am in their car. A 1967 Impala SS might be my favorite car of all time - as I have stated on this forum MANY times.
You guys have stated that everywhere you go that you guys get into these verbal altercations and everywhere we go we have a great time with other car clubs. I guess that means that we have to notice a common thread with both clubs.
You also noted that Doc didn't say thank you, but you might want to go back & re-read the thread. His next post after the other Impala member posted the tag pic was saying thank you.
As far as being "waxers" - we enjoy our vehicles a LOT! Mine does get waxed a lot. It also hits the Dragon 2x a year and does a TON of other car events. I can understand why you would want to enjoy the crap out of your cars now, but I am sure that there are a small group of folks holding on to theirs for the future. They didn't make too many of our cars - less that 80k in the entire production run. It makes them special to us - there are less that 2k of the SRT that got hit. I know that there weren't a lot of 7th Gen Impala SS cars but according to Chevrolet they aren't seen as true SS cars, more a trim level. I got this quote from Wikikpedia :
The entire B/D-body line, consisting of the Chevrolet Caprice, Impala SS, Buick Roadmaster and Cadillac Fleetwood, was discontinued by General Motors, as GM wanted more assembly lines to be able to produce more profitable SUVs. Another fact was that the Caprice was the only B-body with a market share since fleet sales to law enforcement outnumbered sales of all other B-bodies. Additionally the Impala SS is not acknowledged as 'Impala SS' on owners' title or bill of sale. Therefore this version does not fall into a generation status as does the previous and newer models. Until further research is done and can be justified by General Motors, this Impala SS is merely a top of the line high-performance version of the 1991–1996 Chevrolet Caprice.
You should enjoy your cars - race the crap out of them, mod them within an inch of their lives, razz your other forum boys until they want to slash their wrists, drive those sleds into the ground until the wheels fall off - have at it. Just don't criticize us because we appreciate our cars in a different way. As far as "waxers" being down the car ladder - well I guess that just depends on who you are. The Pebble Beach group of waxers might look at you guys as unwashed heathens who just learned how to tie your shoes without instruction. Autocross, open wheel and pretty much the entire non-American world would probably look on you as mechanics instead of drivers - totally good with putting a ton of HP in a car that goes in a straight line, but that doesn't make fast drivers.
Me, I think that you guys are probably just super defensive & sick of your cars being called taxi cabs and bloated and a Caprice with a body kit. I might be a little pissed off too if I were you guys. That being said - go enjoy them, have a great time. Just know that we respect all people who love their cars here and we love to see the results of those efforts. Its really too bad that all the XF crew at Woodward didn't really get to see what makes your cars cool because of the overall attitude being thrown their way......