Well, I like the spunk. Finally some CFers who can use the keyboard and send some zings back.
First of all, please don't use Wiki for anything. I don't think you would like a lot of the comments about your cars on there either.
"The Crossfire's fastback roof and broad rear fenders made for a rear end design that prompted automotive journalists to describe the new car's resemblance to American Motor's 1965-1967 Marlin" Ouch. An AMC reference.
"The sales of the Crossfire have been slow..." - We sold more Impala SS's in the 3 year run than you did in a 5 year run. If you add in Caprices, Caddy's, and Buicks it was a landslide. Your car was cancelled due to poor sales. Our car was cancelled due to corporate greed (GM could make more money building SUV's in the Arlington, TX plant so they dropped the line).
Also, sales for the CF went downhill HARD after the first year, nearly none were sold the last 2 years. What does that say? The Impala SS sold more and more each year, proving it's selling power.
I mean, these numbers are just plain embarrassing:
Year............2003.....2004....2005.....2006....2007
Production....35,700...28,000...12,500...
4,805...2,000
It looks like they couldn't give them away at the end. Our last year was the highest production as many ripped GM for killing a good selling model and people hustled out to buy one before this instant collectors item was gone. INSTANT. COLLECTORS. ITEM.
As far as it being a glorified Caprice. LOL. Yeah we mostly hated the 91-93 Caprices too. Ugly, upside down bathtubs for sure. Cop cars and taxi cabs. I wouldn't be caught dead in one. However they were dead ***** reliable and sturdy as hell, as you can see by all the taxi's and cop cars still on the road.
The fact is the 94 SS changed the way 4 door cars are made. It was monochrome (blacked out), Vette engined, had the biggest wheels and tires on any production car in the world (besides the Vette), and handled great.
Anyone above who denies that isn't putting it in perspective. The SS was a beast compared to anything available
at the time. Many many articles written about the car praising the return of Detroit muscle. So please, bark up another tree regarding it being 'slow' because back in 1994 it was the king. Best looking sedan out there and for half the price it kept up with or exceeded a BMW 7-series car in every test. Trust me, I saved all the articles. It was heralded, not a limp effort like the CF's.
So comparing our rave-review car to your crushingly disappointing car is a bit silly. You might not like it, but you can't disprove it.
As far as our parking lot antics, I was out there every single night and NOTHING would have been said if your forum members hadn't starting posting barbs in this thread, parked under the overhang in the rain like King Tut, and parked across 2 spots in a packed parking lot until they were shamed into moving.
As far as family, we are the same but way deeper. This goes back to 1994. I've been to more funerals than I care to from this community.
For the record..I can own any car I like, I stick with Chevy's. Nothing I like more than embarrassing a snob in a BMW or Mercedes with my lowly Chevy. I do like Mopar and Ford too, all American muscle. You saw above what I own. I like kicking Euro/Jap *** with my Chevy.
I will tell you this...our group used to be like yours in one way. We had money (it cost more in scale to buy a new Impala SS in 1994, or at least the same, as buying a CF) and we had a lot of people with big bucks in the community. Now, our cars are 15+ years old and some on 3rd or 4th owners. At the bottom of the curve for resale value too (although SS's are still worth more than your cars). So we get a lot of young kids getting into the hobby through the older cop cars and taxis. So the parking lot crowd is definitely changing. It happens. Not a ton of us left here from the beginning but I still will hang with these people any day of the week over the jerks most other car clubs.
Still, we've never acted like that: Taking up 2 spots, thinking their cars are superior, blocking a hotel entrance, and talking trash on the internet. You guys acted like the Porsche/Vette guys (without the cars to back it up).
Basically the CFers poor behavior led to the Impala guys getting their Irish up. I notice no one has accepted any responsibility for your boorish behavior. If we acted badly it was in response to you acting badly, even though your offenses are far worse than people talking trash. Two wrongs don't make a right, but like my brother used to say "He started it!"
You seem like a nice person, but real car guys buy cars that show AND go. Cars that look pretty but can't get out of their own way are an abomination. Which, pretty much, is why great looking cars like yours, and the T-Birds, and even the "Impala killer" Mercury Marauders came and went and the Impala SS remains legend both with collectors and enthusiasts.
BTW, my taxi will outrun, outcorner, outhandle, and outsell 99% of the cars in your CF world. Also, CrissCrossFire, nice try morAn. Hahahahaha.
Also, I am NOT referring the CF guys who made their cars badass. That AMG setup was outstanding. Bravo. I'm talking about the people that think that pretty pile of slow junk is fine with more chrome pieces. SSee you next year.
Bill
PS - just saw Wolfie's response. He's very agitated. LOL