if you can afford it, give these cars some time. i've owned over 50 cars in my mid-life time and these were the all time bargains for me. i love everything about them. even the cupholder can be repurposed. the hatchback holds everything from my work gear to trips to lowe's (just don't use the wing as the hatch lifter/lowerer). i still pinch myself that 3-4 years later, i have two low mileage srt-6's sitting next to each other in the garage. they've even "aged" well in the hyper-restyle climate of the major mfrs. i bought them new, so never any complaints. of course, kudos to squirrel crusher.