Originally Posted by +fireamx
_________________________1968 AMX_________2004 Crossfire__________
Seating Capacity______________2___________________2_______ _________
Wheel Base__________________97"_________________94.5"___ __________
FR.Track____________________59.7"________________5 8.3"_____________
R.Track_____________________57.0"________________5 8.2"_____________
Length______________________177.2"_______________1 59.8"____________
Height______________________51.7"________________5 1.4"_____________
Ground Clearance____________5.29"________________4.9"____ __________
Curb Weight________________3035 lbs._____________3084 lbs.__________
Weight Distribution F/R,%_____57/43________________54/46_____________
Trunk Space cu.ft.____________9.6__________________7.6________ ______
Turns Lock to Lock____________3.8__________________3.1__________ ____
Turning Circle________________33.5'_________________32.9__ ___________
Engine Compression Ratio______10.2:1________________10.0:1__________
SAE. H.P.____________________225__________________215__ ___________
Frontal Area sq.ft.____________20.6__________________20.6______ ______
Final Drive Ratio_____________3.15:1________________3.27:1____ _______
Body Construction____________Unitized_______________Uni tized_________
Steering___________________recirculating ball________recirculating ball___
Braking 60-0 m.p.h.__________115'__________________114'________ _____
Automatic Trans. Performance__Motor Trend____________Motor Trend_____
30 m.p.h.___________________2.9 sec.________________2.5 sec.________
60 m.p.h.___________________6.9 sec.________________7.1 sec.________
1/4 mile time & speed_______15.2 sec. 92 mph._____ 15.18 sec. 96 mph._
Manual Trans. Performance____Car & Driver____________Car & Driver_____
30 m.p.h.___________________1.9 sec.________________2.1 sec.________
40 m.p.h.___________________3.1 sec.________________3.5 sec.________
50 m.p.h.___________________4.5 sec.________________4.7 sec.________
60 m.p.h.___________________6.6 sec.________________6.5 sec.________
70 m.p.h.___________________8.5 sec.________________8.2 sec.________
80 m.p.h.___________________10.7 sec._______________10.2 sec._______
90 m.p.h.___________________13.5 sec._______________13.1 sec._______
100 m.p.h.__________________16.3 sec._______________16.1 sec._______
1/4 mile time & speed_______14.8 sec. 95 mph._________14.8 sec. 96 mph_
Modified AMX vs SRT-6_____13.18 sec.107mph.______13.3 sec.107.5mph___
Congratulations "On the Wings of Crossfire" great detective work. I should have said this wasn't an open book quiz...LOL...but that's OK. (I am surprised my user name didn't give it away)
Actually I had reservations about starting the thread, because I wasn't sure if the good people of the XF Forum would be receptive to such a controversial analogy. But thanks to an astute observation made by "JUDDZ" in a post #30 from another thread, (I hope Chrysler drops the XF soon) I decided now was as good of a time as any to let the cat out of the bag, and stir things up a bit. Besides, everybody on the forum seems to be pretty "open minded" so I figured, "what the heck".
The most significant point that stood out to me in this comparison, (even though they're over 35 years apart) is how so very similar these two cars still are, "statistically" speaking that is.
I mean except for its length, every other vital statistic of these two cars is practically duplicated, right down to it's braking from 60 mph. and its acceleration to 100 mph. But what is truly amazing is that the Crossfire accomplishes the very same performance as the AMX, using an engine 1/2 its size.(195 cu.in. vs 390 cu.in.) and does so without the help of Forced Induction! On the other hand, even though the XF is currently one of the quickest stopping cars on the planet, the AMX was able to nearly match it in a 1970 M.T. road test using an archaic disc/drum arrangement, on narrow E-70-14" "hard rubber" tires, without anti-lock!
Even though there are only a few shared styling cues between the two cars, neither car will ever be confused for the other. But there is no denying the Crossfires fastback roofline is a throw back to a classic AMC design. Albeit, not that of the AMX, but AMC just the same.
Now since Chrysler has owned the AMX logo ever since they purchased AMC back in 1987, I personally don't understand why they didn't just call it the AMX in the first place. After all, essentially that's just what it is, an AMX for the new Millennium. Besides, Chrysler never hesitated at using other former AMC name plates in the past, like SST, EAGLE, SPIRIT or Concord. AMX originally stood for, American Motors eXperimental. If Daimler Chrysler had used it instead of Crossfire, it could have stood for, A MOPAR eXperimental, or A MERCEDES eXperimental just as easily.
Now I know this entire thread is simply going to be dismissed by some forum members as the "rantings" of a misguided old guy, and that's OK, I can live with that. But I do hope some of you see it as the way it was intended, just to point out some remarkable similarities between two cars, built decades apart. Now is it really that hard to imagine that the Crossfire just might be the very car the AMX could have turned into, especially if you take into consideration, evolution and corporate inbreeding?