There are very few Japanese cars that I like, but I have to add these two to my list of positives - especially the Suby. They say the handling bogey was the Porsche Boxster, which is a fine target to shoot for. Everything I've read on these cars so far has been very positive, especially when discussing the balanced handling - something I prize over sheer HP in a car like this (part of why I loved my Miata so much).