The first thing I found out about lowering is that rarely are two XFs the same. Between the differences in spring pads from the factory, different sized tires/wheels, 5+ types of springs available plus cutting SRTs, driving style, etc. everyone is going to get something fairly close, yet unique. Someone a lot less lowered than I was at the Dragon, not driving hard was rubbing/bottoming out, he had different tires and rims than me. I did not even rub and drove HARD