I kinda like them. Interesting that the spokes are full face yet there's a definite lip behind them - interesting. They should look great on a black car, especially if you plan on murdering it out and changing all the silver trim to black. I wouldn't go with 20s though as I see zero upside and a bit of negative; heavier, rougher ride, greater tire cost,higher risk of damage. I love the 18/19 stagger of the factory setup, too, so I kept that when I got a set of black TSW Doningtons mounted to my car last summer.