You know there are only a handful of us who truely are going after HP when you think about it. We have a lot of new members coming on board everyday. My point, or beef it you will, is the impatience displayed when waiting on parts. The cars aren't made anymore. Parts, especially aftermarket performance parts aren't readily available. Never were. There are only a handful of shops out there that any of us can deal with, and we start **** like this. It's not going to happen overnight and you would think you would realize that. Go buy a Camaro, and JEGS, SUMMIT, etc will be glad to ship the next day. Hell, MB will ship the next day. John is right, there are a lot of places that will fab headers. Maybe not as cheap. I think the big word here is, CUSTOM. Everything we will do is just that. Custom made. You don't get things quickly when custom made. No one likes to be promised something and then not get it when promised. But, in the custom world, **** like this is going to happen. NO one is going to shut down their normal operation to make you anything. They will work it in. Just the way it is. It hasn't changed in the 40 years I have been around performance cars. Step back, and wait, or don't order the **** to begin with. I certainly don't need shops that are willing to work on cars, saying to hell with those guys. Of course if you are just going to keep your car a few years, you don't care. I'm keeping mine until I die. I do care. Speedriven is at least willing to finish a project that originally got off to a slow start. So what if you don't the headers for another month or two. You are still getting headers that you can't get anywhere else at the moment. I am sure as hell glad Rob at Needwings has patience, because he gets this **** too, and I am glad Rudy has patience, and the guys at Eurocharged, thanks, Jake. And now, Speedriven...enough rant, back to work for me....and don't bother to respond, I dont' care. I just care about our vendors who help me out all the time.