And you wonder why there are so few builders of anything... Tuners, right! Good luck with that. I saw this **** with the vette club...different car, same old ****.... Rudy, come on down, you can work on my **** anytime. Speedriven, will continue on making $$$$ doing what they do...10 people won't close their doors, but words will close friendships, which are worth a hell of lot more than these cars....all I have to say. If I do go ahead with my exhaust project, I will share the info after the fact, and you can work your own deals if you like their work... I won't be doing any group buys...