Thread: Upsolue Tuning
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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Default Re: Upsolue Tuning

Originally Posted by OnTheWingsOfCrossfire
^^^ What he said. Is it possible that was the ft-lbs at the wheels? I'd expect ~185 whp/~200 wtq on a completely stock crossfire.
Hopefully HDDP can post the torque value as well. Speaking of torque, there's one other thing I wanted to mention. A lot of people bash the Crossfire for being down on HP but they forget to mention how that HP is delivered. If you'll look at my other post in a thread entitled Interesting things I found, you'll notice this:

90% of max torque is available from about 2,300-5,300 rpm, 98% of max torque is available from 3,000-4,500 rpm

HP is a measure of how much work an engine can do, but torque is a measure of how hard the engine can twist something. More torque equals perceived more oomph when you mash your right foot. In the case of the Crossfire all you have to do is keep the engine above 2,500 rpm to have a lot of fun.

Other cars may make more horsepower and torque but you have to keep the engine spinning at high rpms to find it. Take the 350Z example from my previous post: Peak HP hits at 6,200 rpm and peak torque hits at 4,800 rpm. The Crossfire does it at 5,700 rpm and 3,000 rpm respectively, which means that during everyday driving you will spend more time in the meaty part of the powerband. When you're in a "competitive" situation, it also means that you're less likely to have to downshift to achieve the desired results. This explains to me at least why Crossfire owners have reported beating other cars that make bigger HP/Torque numbers.
 
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