It sounds like you just got a hold of some punks. I have some friends with SRT4's and SRT8's and we all have respect for each other's rides. I have smoked my fair share of both and have a competitive grudge against one of my buddies 4. I had him beat a couple of times at the track but the last time we went he brought drag radials and got me by a .15 in the 1/4. I have always liked the Neon 4's for what they are, but like it was said above " hate the driver, not the car"