bobs... i am looking at $30-50 more to appeal to the dealer... not to DC. mannn these dealers are getting huge incentives... or supplemental credit from DC to get these XFs sold. when a dealer sells a New XF leftover or not for under $23,000... the dealer gets a kickback from DC to supplement the sale of an underpriced car. no joke.

so what i was projecting, the $30-50 more per oil change, the dealer will benefit from it solely... because they have to deal with the complaining customers the hassle of the labor and the 8.5 qts of oil and the rarity of the car...etc.

my experience with 3 dealers is that i had to wait for the XF repairs until a qualified tech/mech could work on it... and if they were out sick i/we had to wait until they came back to work...because each of these dealers only had 1 qualified XFtechie under their employ. and the managers seem to grimace when they see an XF come in for service.

you're right about rolling the losses over to newer models... and i guarantee you that DCHQ has been phasing out the XF since '05... there is a 50/50 chance of seeing '07s.
which falls short of the '08 contractractual obligation with khaman.

good luck with the call... thanks

josh