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Default Re: Fuel Filter/Regulator: hose to charcoal canister; why?

Originally Posted by boostmonkey
I do not understand why the fuel filter/regulator has a hose going from what appears to be the regulator diaphragm to the charcoal canister. It is not a boost/vacuum referenced fuel pressure regulator, right? Does anyone have data logs of fuel pressure? Is it constant relative to atmospheric pressure? The fuel pressure seems to be constant, regardless of boost or vacuum in the intake manifold. So why the hose connection? Does the ECU selectively use vacuum/boost to adjust the fuel pressure for emissions?
So looking back at your original post...
Some meanderings/observations/thoughts.....
Note - my fuel cap always seems to have a a slight positive pressure 0.5psi(?) when I go to fill up.
Anything over this and I guess the vent valve (76) opens to the canister - I'm presuming.

The canister would vent to atmosphere - eg: when you are stopped and filling your tank....about 1.5L/sec?
I'm not sure if AC (Activated carbon) extracts fuel - it must do...otherwise the vapours would be very strong - and dangerous.
Somehow this AC has to discard this buildup, I presume through fresh air into the AC when the engine is running and the -ve side of the manifold (pre SC) is open (purge control valve Y58/1).
The tank needs to suck air in also as you use fuel (max 0.05L/sec) or the tank cools down (possibly similar volume expansion/contraction rate of 0.05L/sec here). So the tank vent valve would have something like ....
+0.5psi = expell
-0.5psi = suck - it cant suck unless it is -ve (or it is pumped in - which it isnt).

The purge valve would have some sort of differential pressure setup...probably of a mechanical form - others may be able to add something here. eg: does it have wires attached?
when the manifold prs is -ve it opens and allows the canister to suck atmospheric*
when the manifold prs is 0 (stationary) the valve is closed and the canister would vent to atmosphere - eg: when filling the tank.
If its not an electrical setup - this would be the case all the time - if it has some sort of timer on it (electrical) then maybe it would other ECU ties.

I've been meaning to put some more thought into this, but have been a little busy with a home made OBDII logger setup I'm working on. So just some thoughts put out there for discussion.

* would this add to our "going lean" issues if we are pulling above stock cfms and our vacuum ex throttle is greater? - I dont think it would be a significant volume compared to 600cfm.
 
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