Originally Posted by
pizzaguy
I'd like some psychiatrist to explain to my why BOTH sides think the OTHER side is in control. Because I hear this from BOTH sides.
What makes you so sure? Even among the most prominent physicists, 7 percent or so believe in a personal God.
Additionally, Islam is going BACKWARD, it has been since the beginning of the 12th century when one of their premier clerics declared that manipulation of numbers was "the work of the devil". Show me any contribution Islamic scholars have made since the 12 century - there are almost none. And THIS from a culture that, in the 300 years before, brought us Algebra, Geometry and the foundations of Chemistry. You cannot predict with such certainly what the human condition will produce.
Since there is no way of factually knowing whether or not there is a divine creator many scientifically minded people straddle a fence of belief. That would explain the 7% you reference.
As far as the USA losing religious adherents.....statistics formed by polling with a small margin of error. As of today Americans identify themselves as believing in some form of divinity about 67%. When broken down about 80% of those cite christianity as their religion. This is down from 90% or higher 3 decades ago. Western Europe today hovers around 40% believers. The Scandinavian countries clock in even lower in belief, 10-20% last time I checked. Simple math shows that within the USA the 67% if diminishing at the same rate it has for the last fifty years would put the belief rate under 50% in fifty years.
For those that have faith and believe, I hope you are vindicated in your beliefs when you die or rocket toward the heavens during the rapture. The thought of a nirvana where you get back together with loved ones in a beautiful, tranquil, all loving society is truly worthy of worship.
I don't have the faith or belief anymore and will never gain it back unless there is at least some small scintilla of evidence to support it. I won't even take voices in my head as proof unless todays modern drugs can't make them go away.
Someone mentioned a personal miracle, can anyone tell a story of a personal miracle that cannot be explained by science? If so, does this miracle have any unbiased researchable evidence to support its existence? I would like to hear these stories.