am yet to receive a good local offer,all buyers were to far.and its hard selling that way,i have to get paid then ship.Anyway,ill proably murder these wheels all black plasti dip and use my tsw Nurburgrings for winter and fall.ill keep this subscript open and post pics after I mount some tires .guys,thanks much for any and all feedback ,especialy all and any pics.stay healthy and keep me posted .later