180 if all you can do is go on a Facebook site and come back here and ***** on how stupid we are I suggest you join the group and share your arrogant knowledge instead of hiding here and putting us down. Those on Facebook go for the social aspect and when need they come here...BUT,MANY NO LONGER WISH to come here because of being made to feel like fools or be talked to in an arrogant and condescending attitude that we are still seeing here today